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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by FvS » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:06 am

Physiocrat wrote:If you like Twin Peaks and Lost Highway you should definitely watch Mulholland Drive of you haven't already.
Oh yeah, I've seen all of his stuff except for Wild at Heart and Elephant Man.
Jon Irenicus wrote:Those 3 are high on my list - is Altered Carbon as good as it's said to be?
I'd say the beginning is stronger than the finish, but I enjoyed it a lot. I'm starved for good sci-fi anyway, and I liked Joel Kinnaman from The Killing.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by William » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:51 am

Currently reading Le Grand Meaulnes by Alain-Fournier.

All I can think as I enjoy this novel is how very sad this all is. If one put a list of all the talent cut short due to WWI, it might be a more tangible, less abstract way to give most men a sense of the enormity of the catastrophe that was World War I.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by William » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:32 pm

@Physiocrat:

Novels -

Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky - it's his most consistent novel. The Brother Karamazov needs some serious editing.


*clutching pearls* I think that's a bit of a blasphemy on The Brothers Karamazov.

All of Dostoevsky's major novels are "A+ material". I consider Karamazov to be his best by "objective " criteria, and probably one of the 10 or 15 best novels ever written...however, I have always enjoyed Demons the most. I used to consider Crime and Punishment his most overrated, until I read it again last year for the first time in a decade and realized the detective Porfiry Petrovich is one of the great characters in literature, and his arc in the story really helps drive the whole thing. I think Peter Faulk's Columbo was based on him, and thinking that really helps bring that character to life. It's also the novel where I think he is at his most descriptive of turn of the century St. Petersburg, bringing the city to life in the novel. One of Dostoevsky's faults in his more major novels is sometimes the environment gets lost in all the psychology, I don't think that's as much the case in C&P.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Physiocrat » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:16 pm

William wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:32 pm
@Physiocrat:

Novels -

Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky - it's his most consistent novel. The Brother Karamazov needs some serious editing.


*clutching pearls* I think that's a bit of a blasphemy on The Brothers Karamazov.

All of Dostoevsky's major novels are "A+ material".
I think the Brothers Karamazov is a very good novel I just think that it isn't Dostoyevsky's best and I think it is unduly put in the category particularly Christians.

I really like the Demons too. It was the first Dostoyevsky I read. But again it needs editing. The first 200 pages have nothing to with the main plot. They are definitely well written but really should be shorter.

It's more of a serialised format issue rather than a Dostoyevsky thing. When I read them I tried to read one serialised section at a time. It requires a few hours but you get a much better flow that way.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by William » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:31 pm

Physiocrat wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:16 pm
William wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:32 pm
@Physiocrat:

Novels -

Crime and Punishment by Dostoyevsky - it's his most consistent novel. The Brother Karamazov needs some serious editing.


*clutching pearls* I think that's a bit of a blasphemy on The Brothers Karamazov.

All of Dostoevsky's major novels are "A+ material".
I think the Brothers Karamazov is a very good novel I just think that it isn't Dostoyevsky's best and I think it is unduly put in the category particularly Christians.

I really like the Demons too. It was the first Dostoyevsky I read. But again it needs editing. The first 200 pages have nothing to with the main plot. They are definitely well written but really should be shorter.

It's more of a serialised format issue rather than a Dostoyevsky thing. When I read them I tried to read one serialised section at a time. It requires a few hours but you get a much better flow that way.
lol, Demons really does take over 100 pages to get going, but when it does it is hard to put down. One of my most intense ever reading experiences involved the climax of the Kiriliov arc. I remember reading and walking in a public place at the same time, and I had no idea where I was and what I was doing because I was so engrossed with the story. Karamazov, as long as it is, does at least set the pace right away.

Some of the context needed for things like Dumas, Dickens, Dostoevsky, etc is the way they were published serially in journals at the time. So that may explain why some of the pacing and writing is the way it is. It would be our equivalent of watching a tv show that is a connected series, which can account for some oddities in pacing.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Physiocrat » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:14 pm

William wrote:
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:31 pm
Some of the context needed for things like Dumas, Dickens, Dostoevsky, etc is the way they were published serially in journals at the time. So that may explain why some of the pacing and writing is the way it is. It would be our equivalent of watching a tv show that is a connected series, which can account for some oddities in pacing.
That's a fair comparison. And yes the Demons is very intense, I think of his major works it might be the best to adapt to TV.
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Post by Ut unum sint » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:27 pm

Brass Eye is very funny.
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Ut unum sint wrote:
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Brass Eye is very funny.
It is indeed especially the paedophile special.
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