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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Millennial TM » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:52 am

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Brass Eye is very funny.
It can be but it's also very harrowing. Jam is even more so. It is genius, but I have to feel in a tough enough mood to watch it.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Millennial TM » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:59 am

Movies
(though I hardly ever sit down to a movie nowadays)

Standy By Me
Shawshank Redemption
An American Werewolf in London
Every Which Way But Loose (and the sequel)
Bowfinger
The Three Amigos
Jumanji (nostagia)
Lion King (nostalgia)
The Breakfast Club
Monster Squad
A Nightmare on Elm Street (and the third movie too)
Airplane I & II + Naked Gun series
The Warriors
V for Vendetta
Kes
Monty Python's Holy Grail & Life of Brian
My Neighbor Totoro
Spirited Away
Freaks

Interesting side-note: my father was head of make-up on the new movie The Shape of Water and designed and sculpted the creature and its costume. He also contributed to The Wolfman remake and Men in Black III though he doesn't appear in the credits for the latter two.
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Post by Clayton » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:15 pm

Recently discovered Enter the Dojo... don't know how I missed this and so sad that it only went for a few seasons.



Master Ken - creator of and 11th degree black-belt in Ameri-Do-Te - has tons and tons of secret street-fighting tips that are equally uproarious:



His live shows are amazing, as well, I would kill-face to see him live:


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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by William » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:22 pm

Millennial TM wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:59 am
Movies
(though I hardly ever sit down to a movie nowadays)


Interesting side-note: my father was head of make-up on the new movie The Shape of Water and designed and sculpted the creature and its costume. He also contributed to The Wolfman remake and Men in Black III though he doesn't appear in the credits for the latter two.
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Clayton » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:08 am

OK, I just have to share this. Not sure if this is the right thread but I'll post it here. Galen Hooks choreo for Bishop Briggs's song "River" -



*shivers* ... I'm already a fan of Nicole Kirkland's choreo (screen left, first group)... I've now added Galen to my list of favs.

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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by William » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:09 pm

Movies that are on netflix that I haevn't seen in a while and watched recently:

Seven and LA Confidential: Both of these films hold up reasonably well, and are better than most Hollywood movies that come out now. The swing side is though, they still aren't quite up to par with more classic noir films. This is kind of how I feel about Taranteno's best films. The homage to the fims doesn't exceed the source material. Though as a younger lad, I didn't know the source material as well and took these films at face value, hence why I tended to over rate them a little. Still good flicks and definitely worth watching

The Commitments:

The 90's I remember had a lot of good Irish flicks. This one holds if you like the music (which I love), and the humor is pretty solid. I have the Crying Game on my list too, we'll see if that holds. But I think everyone still remembers the scorpion parable from that movie.

Heat:

Still mind blowing. I wish more action movies were like this, and less like the dreck we get now.

also, the discussion of the diner scene as interviewd by the great Chris Nolan:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/EWwbIHi9D90[/youtube]
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Physiocrat » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:44 pm

William wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:09 pm

Heat:

Still mind blowing. I wish more action movies were like this, and less like the dreck we get now.

also, the discussion of the diner scene as interviewd by the great Chris Nolan:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/EWwbIHi9D90[/youtube]
I saw Heat for the first time recently and had mixed feelings. I wrote a short review on Facebook about it.

Saw Michael Mann's Heat for the first time yesterday. It's got some nice set pieces especially the robbery at the beginning and the main characters are well drawn. It also looks pretty good with lots of reflective surfaces. However the film is too long (at 2hrs 50mins) and has many extraneous characters - with the number of characters they had it would have worked better as a mini-series. Also thematically the things you should let go and things you should fight to keep was obvious and a little trite.

This was made in 1995 and it's noticeable as there are no inter-racial relationships, they are all intra-racial. If it was made today there would definitely be inter-racial ones.

Clapper Board rating - 3 - worth watching

Note on the Clapper board rating. The idea rating is based around whether my future self would tell my present self to watch this film.

4 Clapper Boards - Must see
3 Clapper Boards - Worth watching
2 Clapper Boards - Don't bother
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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Clayton » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:18 am

I'm with William, re. Heat (holy Hell, there is at least one thing that William and I agree on!) While it can't help but show its age after more than 20 years, the movie had one ingredient that is almost entirely absent from modern action films: conviction. Not the conviction of the director and writers, conviction of the characters that were portrayed in the movie. I've never met a gangster in my life; never met anybody that's robbed a bank or done a heist. Most of us haven't. Yet, somehow, the movie simply feels true because it captures and delicately handles (against a brutal backdrop) that quintessentially human trait: contradiction. Pacino is the wolf in relentless pursuit of his quarry... yet his personal life is an empty hell. DeNiro is a no-holds-barred criminal - and intelligent, too - yet he is secretly a romantic and illogically risks everything to uphold street justice... and ends up losing it all. I think you had to see the movie back in the day to really feel its magic... it is definitely a creature of the zeitgeist of mid-1990s America. But it will always set the bar in my mind for gritty action films.

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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by William » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:46 am

Physiocrat wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:44 pm
William wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:09 pm

Heat:

Still mind blowing. I wish more action movies were like this, and less like the dreck we get now.

also, the discussion of the diner scene as interviewd by the great Chris Nolan:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/EWwbIHi9D90[/youtube]
I saw Heat for the first time recently and had mixed feelings. I wrote a short review on Facebook about it.

Saw Michael Mann's Heat for the first time yesterday. It's got some nice set pieces especially the robbery at the beginning and the main characters are well drawn. It also looks pretty good with lots of reflective surfaces. However the film is too long (at 2hrs 50mins) and has many extraneous characters - with the number of characters they had it would have worked better as a mini-series. Also thematically the things you should let go and things you should fight to keep was obvious and a little trite.

This was made in 1995 and it's noticeable as there are no inter-racial relationships, they are all intra-racial. If it was made today there would definitely be inter-racial ones.

Clapper Board rating - 3 - worth watching

Note on the Clapper board rating. The idea rating is based around whether my future self would tell my present self to watch this film.

4 Clapper Boards - Must see
3 Clapper Boards - Worth watching
2 Clapper Boards - Don't bother
1 Clapper Board - Avoid
I think Mann actually said his original idea was to make Heat a tv show. But at the time that probably wouldn't have worked, I don't think that intensity in action or the characters could've been brought to TV at the time. It's only now that we have something like Netflix and HBO where Heat could've been a mini series. I actually liked the length and all the characters, that's one of the thing that got me hooked on it. I think the closest comparison to something like that would be things like The Godfather and The Dark Night (which I think Nolan cited Heat as one of his influences for the movie). I will admit that the depressed daughter (maybe Natalie Portman's first role?) was a dangling plot.

Also of note, Val Kilmer supposedly got real gun training for the movie. He did this in one take with no stunt doubles. This scene where he shoots, turns, shoots, and reloads is supposedly used by Special Forces as the perfect way to do this action:

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Re: Favourite Films, TV series and Novels

Post by Physiocrat » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:57 pm

William wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:46 am
I think Mann actually said his original idea was to make Heat a tv show. But at the time that probably wouldn't have worked, I don't think that intensity in action or the characters could've been brought to TV at the time. It's only now that we have something like Netflix and HBO where Heat could've been a mini series. I actually liked the length and all the characters, that's one of the thing that got me hooked on it. I think the closest comparison to something like that would be things like The Godfather and The Dark Night (which I think Nolan cited Heat as one of his influences for the movie). I will admit that the depressed daughter (maybe Natalie Portman's first role?) was a dangling plot.

Also of note, Val Kilmer supposedly got real gun training for the movie. He did this in one take with no stunt doubles. This scene where he shoots, turns, shoots, and reloads is supposedly used by Special Forces as the perfect way to do this action:

It makes sense that he wanted to make a TV series but yes you're probably right about the action levels in TV back then. With respect to the depressed daughter it did bring the biggest shock in the film.

If Kilmer did that sequence in one take with no stunt doubles then... (stands up to applaud)
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