Q thread

Economics, Politics, Philosophy, History and Culture
Forum rules
Always add something of value to the discussion and have fun. Mind your language, no porn, no libel, no trolling and no personal attacks.

Please note, views expressed on the forum do not necessarily represent the views of Mises UK. the Mises UK Council, Mises UK Faculty or Mises UK members. Membership of this forum is open to anyone world wide who is interested in civil discussion.
User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:14 pm

Red October



The theme of "Red October" has popped up quite a few times in Q's drops although he hasn't actually explained what he means by it. One theory is that the Democrats have been especially infiltrated by the Deep State and that the 50,000+ sealed Federal indictments held by the DOJ right now include the names of a lot of Democrats throughout the country. Since October is the last month before the mid-term elections, it is the best time to drop a political bomb. So, Red October might be a wave of arrests of elected Democrat politicians caught up in these horrific abuse/trafficking rings run by the Deep State that the Q team has been silently infiltrating and shutting down in the background.

Whatever the case, it's clear to me that the entrenched global power factions are ramping up for war with each other, although it might not be obvious from the news headlines that this is what is happening. The hardest part is knowing who the good guys are in a world where the bad guys are able to inject effectively unlimited amounts of noise and confusion into the public consciousness by technological means. Metaphorically, it reminds me of the metastability phenomenon in digital electronics -- when the timing requirements of a memory element are violated (this can happen when the circuit is operated at too high of a frequency), the output state becomes indeterminate for some random period of time, until the memory element settles into one of its stable states (stable high or stable low). The present world order has the appearance of stability/durability, but it is just a metastable state. Sooner or later, it will resolve into a stable state.

User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:00 pm





Not directly related to Q, but still connected in an indirect way, and quite remarkable. Try for a moment to imagine every word spoken by this Imam as being spoken by a typical, conservative Christian pastor in any anglophile country (and even some parts of Europe), change out "God" or "Jesus" for "Allah", and strike any Arabic language. Would it play to a conservative, Christian audience? Minus the remarks about the beard, it would -- and with thunderous applause.

Leaving aside any question of the morality of sexual promiscuity, trans-genderism or homosexuality, what are the ramifications of the resonance of sexual mores between conservative Islam and conservative Christianity (two massive world demographics which are, according to the global political narrative, at war with each other)?? How does such a situation come about? Is this a natural, organic process, free of external interference?

User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:57 am

Q recommended, I concur - worth 40 minutes of your time:


User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:53 am

BOOM week. I'm on the edge of my seat, popcorn popped, scanning the headlines.



The sketch outline is starting to come together. China has been very very busy within the territorial US. But the real problem is not China (of course China is trying to penetrate the US) but, rather, the traitors within the US who have been selling America off, piece-by-piece, to China. Of course, China is just one piece of the puzzle but it's an important piece because it unlocks the chain of treachery. (Traitors within) NSA >>> Silicon Valley >>> China. Are these "accidental vulnerabilities" at GOOG/TWIT and so on, really so accidental? Or have the blinds intentionally been left tilted open for foreign data harvesting?

China's incentive is obvious. Silicon Valley's incentive is also obvious. But what were/are the intentions of the traitors? My first guess is they set up a cash-pipeline from China to DC. The way it works is this. In order to do business in China, tech companies have to do certain "favors" for the Chinese government (turn a blind eye at the right moment, "overlook" a basic security mechanism, etc.) But these favors were not brokered unilaterally since no private corporation could afford that kind of political/legal risk. Instead, they were brokered out of DC by corrupt actors. (Clowns?) Money was funneled back to DC by the Silicon Valley corps (funded from the bumper-crop of cash coming out of their Chinese satellites) through political donations, "lobbying", and all the many other ways that political money flows around regulations to get from briber to bribed. The corrupt actors who brokered these arrangements could then convert this cash into influence in the usual way.

Like it or not, this part of the story is pretty much business-as-usual. The really scary part is the technology transfer to China and what its purpose was/is. Despite its economic growth and rapidly increasing technological capability, China is not able to develop its own technological control grid. But in less than two years, China will, indeed, have a nation-wide technological control grid (much of the main functionality has already been rolled out). How did this technological miracle happen? Who (outside of China) benefits from this? How? What is the long game? Answering these questions will make Pence's speech make a lot more sense.

User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:33 am

This is probably not unimportant...


User avatar
Nyarlathotep
Posts: 17
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:43 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Nyarlathotep » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:14 pm

Clayton wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:53 am
Like it or not, this part of the story is pretty much business-as-usual. The really scary part is the technology transfer to China and what its purpose was/is. Despite its economic growth and rapidly increasing technological capability, China is not able to develop its own technological control grid. But in less than two years, China will, indeed, have a nation-wide technological control grid (much of the main functionality has already been rolled out).
Well, consider what Anthony Sutton and Guido Preperata wrote about both the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany: An long term enemy needs to believable. And somewhat stable too. From what I remember reading there are something like a thousand "incidents" every year in China, ranging from illegal demonstrations, to full-scale riots, to heavily supressed ethno-religious tensions (Hui Chinese and Uighurs).
Allowing this sophisticated surveilance tech to fall into Chinese hands will make the supression arrayed against all of this much more efficient.
This is probably not unimportant...
Interestingly the Al-Aqsa Mosque began it's life as a Christian church built by then dominant non-trinitarian denomination.

User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:40 am

YouTube recommendation:



Some thoughts --

The word "Illuminati" is one of those boogeyman words... it means to you whatever you think it means. To some, it is a joke. To others, it is some deep mystery. To yet others, it is a symbol of terror and control. I have written extensively on other forums on the topic of conspiracies and I have emphasized that it is always a mistake to imagine some "group", whether secret or otherwise, who "pulls all the strings." There is no group of people who pulls all the strings in this world, no matter how you slice it. Yet, there is a global conspiracy. There is just one conspiracy, and it has just one head who pulls all the strings there are. You can refer to him by any name you please -- the devil, Satan, Lucifer, whatever. You do not have to "join" any secret society or "sell your soul" to do his work on earth. To join Satan's conspiracy, all you need to do is have hatred in your heart for your brother. This hatred might manifest in grievous evils like murder, robbery and false testimony. Or, it might manifest in petty evils like gossip, character assassination and bigotry. It all serves the same purpose.

I posted this interview (I watch tons of these things but rarely post them) because they touched on a couple important points that rarely get discussed. First, they discussed the "spiritual dimension". To call it a "dimension" is just a figure of speech. There is no "place" that is the "spiritual realm" as opposed to this place, the material realm. What the material realm is -- as opposed to the spiritual realm -- is the space of possibilities that your mind can accept as really possible. At root, the world is spiritual. In the spiritual realm, all things are possible, kind of like dreams, except real. To be "in the spirit" is to be knowing this truth, to be in some kind of contact (felt, sensed, intuited or otherwise) with the root limitlessness of reality. Thus, the spiritual realm is best understood as an entirely subjective phenomenon.

Second, they discussed the idea of feeding on evil. Economics shows that we can think of the market as a kind of very complex machine with no designer. It takes energy and raw materials as input, and it produces usable work output. In physics, this is called a "heat engine". A heat engine, in turn, is a kind of amplifier. An amplifier is a device that takes some small control signal, and "boosts" it with an abundant power source. A backhoe is a perfect example of an amplifier -- the backhoe operator applies small pressure to the joystick and this pressure is then amplified countless times by the hydraulic pistons acting on the shovel. To understand the present predicament of our world, I think of the present world-order as a gigantic, globe-sized "evil amplifier". It takes billions of tiny inputs (all the mistakes that each of us makes, whether from malice, ignorance or negligence) and seeks to connect them to an abundant power source where they can be amplified countless times over. The idea is to convert the paltry sins of youth into an ocean of countless other sins (whether our own sins or the sins of others) so that we will all fall astray and self-negate on account of basic moral failures.

Of course, none of this makes sense if you are a materialist. Materialism is an apparently self-consistent worldview, so I do not fault anyone for having a materialist view of causality on account of reason and life experience. But even the materialist must admit that materialism only extends to the limits of their own experience (including the reports of materialist belief by others). In short, it is possible that I have experienced something that does not fit within the box of materialism. Therefore, materialism cannot be certainly the case and every intellectually honest materialist must leave the door ajar, however slightly, to the possibility of spiritual reality.

User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:17 pm

Praying Medic: Will YouTube Suspend My Channel?

As Q is fond of saying, "All for a LARP". I've listened to many of Praying Medic's Q videos and he's one of the most "buttoned-down" commentators I've ever heard, not just on the Internet, but anywhere. He mostly sticks to reviewing what Q has posted with decodes of jargon/acronyms/inside-references thrown in to aid comprehension and that's pretty much it. Let's assume Q is an evil, ultra-right, racist, hate-speech-spewing political operator. Reviewing his posts and decoding their meaning is not, in itself, hate-speech. Even someone who strongly disagrees with ultra-right, racist hate-speech would review at least some of Q's posts and probably decode some of them in order to make their point (that it's wrong). In short, it's pretty obvious that YouTube's threats against Praying Medic's content are just straight censorship. And the real issue, here, is the disproportionate response to what the MSM-parrots keep calling a LARP. If this is just a LARP, why are they so damn paranoid?

It's not obvious exactly what Q's agenda is because he has clearly stated/demonstrated that he employs disinfo tactics. However, let's "use logic", as Q often says. Let's assume Q is telling the truth overall that there is some kind of secret operation targeting corrupt operators associated with "the Deep State" for indictment, etc. On its face, there's no inherent benefit to talking about this operation to the outside world. Just gather the info and target the corrupt individuals. However, Q has explained that there is another layer of complexity involved -- public perception. And how do you influence public perception? Through mass communications. But what if all the "obvious" channels of mass communication are owned/blockaded (e.g. MSM) by "the Deep State"? You need a channel by which to effect mass communication but you also need to avoid getting tangled up in the he-said/she-said bullshit that comes along with the mainstream approach to mass communication. Thus, Qanon -- a small, widely dispersed group of interested people following "drops" from a source that has amply demonstrated its creds.

The real problem is that the Deep State has created an array of booby-traps for anybody who doesn't "get with the program". One of those booby traps is referred to by Q as "Sum of All Fears", meaning, baiting a nuclear crisis with a foreign nuclear power (almost certainly Russia). Civil war is another booby trap (this could be triggered by DS operators in the MSM, cf the 1992 LA riots). And anyone who says, "Pffft, they (the clowns) would never do something that insane" is either ignorant or carrying water for them.

So, what's "the program"? Well, obviously, to bring into being a world government (with teeth), run unilaterally by the self-styled "elites" (these are the very people who comprise the Deep State that Q is talking about). It's not difficult to guess who "they" are, at least some of them, but the real challenge is putting together something more substantial than hunches, circumstantial evidence and hearsay. Hence, Federal indictments. But the part of "the program" that is most relevant to Internet forums like this one is the part that has to do with universally controlling the flow of information, which is really what YouTube's censorship is about or, at least, it is the part of the program to which YouTube is beholden. The Deep State is deeper than you think it is.

User avatar
Jon Irenicus
Posts: 162
Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:36 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Jon Irenicus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:02 pm

It's become pretty common in discourse these days to see any repetition of points deemed "inappropriate" as part of the problem, whether this be in terms of global warming, race realism, gender realism (e.g. the Damore brouhaha) or any number of other topics. It is censorship of views and often facts which would upset the current zeitgeist, and little else.
Former overlord of the original Mises forum.

User avatar
Clayton
Posts: 121
Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Mon Nov 12, 2018 8:03 pm

Jon Irenicus wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:02 pm
It's become pretty common in discourse these days to see any repetition of points deemed "inappropriate" as part of the problem, whether this be in terms of global warming, race realism, gender realism (e.g. the Damore brouhaha) or any number of other topics. It is censorship of views and often facts which would upset the current zeitgeist, and little else.
Exactly. The irony is that the "conspiracy theorists" of 20, 30 years ago were warning that phrases like "hate speech" were actually stealth weapons that would one day be deployed to silence dissent from the "elite" globalist agenda and that is precisely what they have turned out to be. "The caravan is being funded by political action groups" can now be censored as "hate speech" since relaying this fact could be construed as support for a border wall which, in turn, has been equated to racism by an incredible leap of illogic. The part that actually makes me a little bit sad inside is that I can see the global zeitgeist regressing slowly-but-surely back to the Dark Ages, and this regression is being powered by the engine of political-correctness.

Post Reply