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Re: The Good, the Beautiful, and the Left/Bitching about the Cultural Left

Post by FvS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:27 am

Jon Irenicus wrote:To me, it appears to be the result of government intervention in the economy, which has created a necessity for a 2 earner household.
Probably going to piss some people off with this entire post. I think the feminist movement played a large role as well.



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Neodoxy wrote:Thus it seems to me that the modern left believes in nothing true or beautiful. This jives with my personal experiences as well. Most true "SJW's" (I hate that I am unironically using this term to discuss contemporary politics. Can we please go back to 2008?) that I know are either chronically unhappy people or copy-cats caught in the contemporary leftist tide (they aren't really SJW's). I am not the first to make similar claims, but it appears to me that the left is about a great leveling, a great nihilism, a great leveling/egalitarianizing of all things, in a realm where the egalitarian is toxic. Is there no up or down left? Why get out of bed at all?
Reminded me of this.



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Well said.
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Re: The Good, the Beautiful, and the Left/Bitching about the Cultural Left

Post by Neodoxy » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:15 am

Regardless of the over representation of Jews in a wide variety of areas (I firmly believe that the Jews are the master race), I think the video only has a passing similarity with what I'm talking about, which isn't really about blood or soil. I would say the Jews are actually far better at what I'm talking about than most people are. I also think that the fundamental hypothesis is bullshit for two reasons, the first is for the general anti-polylogism arguments given by Mises (he was Jewish so guess that that's irrelevant right?) and the second is simply that plenty of non-Jews have developed philosophies just like the one in question who are not "wanderers", the most obvious of whom would be Nietzsche. Also going to throw out there that Einstein was describing scientifically discernible events and Karl Marx was never raised Jewish, indeed he was a deeply religious Christian for a time (the theory that communism is just perverted Christianity is one I find particularly interesting).

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Re: The Good, the Beautiful, and the Left/Bitching about the Cultural Left

Post by FvS » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:15 pm

Yeah, I don't necessarily agree with everything in that interpretation of the Jewish Question. What you said just kind of reminded me of it given the Jewish connection to Communism.
Neodoxy wrote:I firmly believe that the Jews are the master race
If by "master race" you mean a psychopathic racial/religious supremacy cult then, yes, you would be correct.
Neodoxy wrote:I also think that the fundamental hypothesis is bullshit for two reasons, the first is for the general anti-polylogism arguments given by Mises (he was Jewish so guess that that's irrelevant right?) and the second is simply that plenty of non-Jews have developed philosophies just like the one in question who are not "wanderers", the most obvious of whom would be Nietzsche.
It was my understanding that Nietzsche was pretty anti-Leftist. Maybe I'm wrong. Mises was one of the greatest Jews to ever live and did much to make up for the transgressions of his brethren.
Neodoxy wrote:Also going to throw out there that Einstein was describing scientifically discernible events and Karl Marx was never raised Jewish, indeed he was a deeply religious Christian for a time (the theory that communism is just perverted Christianity is one I find particularly interesting).
I don't why they included Einstein when Oppenheimer was Jewish too. With regard to Karl Marx, there is a racial component to being Jewish. Also, given the Communist hatred of Christianity, I don't think they would be very happy with that theory. Here is a Jewish socialist's view on Marx's Jewishness.

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More on Judaism and Communism in another post.
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Re: The Good, the Beautiful, and the Left/Bitching about the Cultural Left

Post by Neodoxy » Tue May 01, 2018 2:51 am

FvS wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:15 pm
Neodoxy wrote:I firmly believe that the Jews are the master race
If by "master race" you mean a psychopathic racial/religious supremacy cult then, yes, you would be correct.
There is no other group that has been consistently so resilient, influential, and exceptional as the Jews. If you're approaching this from a collectivistic anger there is no reason to believe that they are not one of the strongest and most remarkable of all humanity.
It was my understanding that Nietzsche was pretty anti-Leftist. Maybe I'm wrong. Mises was one of the greatest Jews to ever live and did much to make up for the transgressions of his brethren.
Nietzsche was adamantly anti-left, but his philosophy of practically weaponized skepticism is a cornerstone of modern leftist thought. His is some of the most destructive thought ever put to paper (there is little of value left from his assault in Twilight of the Idols) and he was a German writing at the height of Germany's power. Other cases that would contradict this thesis would be Hume and Rosseau who were quite destructive in their own way despite being in nothing like the situation described. I also believe that Spinoza was very stable and Jewish, Ayn Rand as well, whatever her flaws, and she was a refugee. It's good that Mises made up for what a bunch of his ancestors did tho.
I don't why they included Einstein when Oppenheimer was Jewish too. With regard to Karl Marx, there is a racial component to being Jewish. Also, given the Communist hatred of Christianity, I don't think they would be very happy with that theory. Here is a Jewish socialist's view on Marx's Jewishness.
I can point you to the theory if you would like. There is no doubt that Marx was a deeply faithful Christian for a time. Socialism's relationship to the Jews is complicated, there's no doubt about that, but there's also no doubt that socialism has a history of antisemitism associated with it. It is not in any way fair to say that communism or socialism is straightforwardly Jewish.

Anyway, apart from everything else the entire thesis here wreaks to me. The Jews are a people of the book and of a set of laws. The word and intellect is exactly what has become sound and stable, and it exists in a set form within a rational tradition. There is no clear theoretical reason to associate Jewish thought with subversion, quite the opposite, and clearly we can point to a number of counterexamples right off the bat.

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Re: The Good, the Beautiful, and the Left/Bitching about the Cultural Left

Post by FvS » Sat May 05, 2018 1:36 am

Do you think Jews ever looked at themselves throughout history and said, "Maybe we're the problem."

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Re: The Good, the Beautiful, and the Left/Bitching about the Cultural Left

Post by Jon Irenicus » Tue May 08, 2018 5:23 pm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... sh-scandal

How retarded, on every level. Also I find the bit about state power funny; these people worship it. Their only problem with the sitting government is that it doesn't fit their ideological fetishes. I don't know why these man-children are even in Oxford.
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