"The Left" and the minority rule in the West

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Re: "The Left" and the minority rule in the West

Post by Jon Irenicus » Mon May 21, 2018 10:59 am

Funnily enough I take Corbyn to be a rebuke of the cultural left. He strikes me as very much being on the economic left but not invested in identity politics, whereas Labour as a whole is. I don’t know if he’s changed is tune to better ‘commandeer’ the party.
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Re: "The Left" and the minority rule in the West

Post by Physiocrat » Mon May 21, 2018 2:02 pm

Jon Irenicus wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:59 am
Funnily enough I take Corbyn to be a rebuke of the cultural left. He strikes me as very much being on the economic left but not invested in identity politics, whereas Labour as a whole is. I don’t know if he’s changed is tune to better ‘commandeer’ the party.
He's less concerned with it than some of his supporters but he did say after work drinks were sexist because women typically couldn't stay late for them and this harmed their career advancement.
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Re: "The Left" and the minority rule in the West

Post by Jon Irenicus » Mon May 21, 2018 4:10 pm

Eep. I wonder if it’s driven by Labour advisors trying to help him ‘fix’ his image after the accusations of sexism early on in his leadership?
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Re: "The Left" and the minority rule in the West

Post by Physiocrat » Mon May 21, 2018 4:20 pm

Jon Irenicus wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 4:10 pm
Eep. I wonder if it’s driven by Labour advisors trying to help him ‘fix’ his image after the accusations of sexism early on in his leadership?
That's possible but still that's a crazy policy.
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Re: "The Left" and the minority rule in the West

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon May 21, 2018 9:28 pm

FvS wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 6:48 am
The Left also benefits from having extremely wealthy financiers like Soros. They seem to be much better organized in terms of protests, boycotts, and social media campaigns. The Right does have the Koch brothers, but I don't think they're very interested in ground level operations.
This is something that came up and was frequently written about during the heyday of "cuckservativism": The left maintains a radical to moderate pipeline whereas the right is preoccupied with disawowing, purging or helping leftists destroy it's own radical element.
Also the priorities of base and donor class on the right are deeply misaligened; for example the current push for the US midterms include prison reform and another tax reform instead of locking down both legal and illegal immigration, building the wall or a infrastructure bill (and yeah, I know that isn't libertarian but politicis is a tribal spoils distribution sceme and should be seen as such).

There's also the fact that right wing organisers see grassroots movements as a resource to be squeezed dry for the benefit of Conservativism Inc. instead of political capital, as evidenced by the history of the Tea Party.

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