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Yet another TED talk about sex

Post by Clayton » Tue May 08, 2018 1:51 am



Pretty good speech. Not sure what she giggled about in the middle - made me laugh. She's definitely right about the female's limitless potential for sexual pleasure. Anyway, I learned that 3/4ths of hetero men are crappy lovers. Men have three orgasms to women's one? Yeah, that statistic could easily be reversed, lol. Of course, the Freudian theory that vaginal stimulation and clitoral stimulation are mutually exclusive is mistaken. The female's erogenous zones are designed to work together, just like the male's erogenous zones. The woman is equally capable of rigid, full-body orgasm, same as the man. There are some women who reach orgasm faster than the vast majority of men are physically capable. She's 100% right that the old wives' tales - that the female body just has a harder time getting off - are false.

The key point that I think she overlooked is that sex is 90+% spiritual (mind/heart), 10% physical; that is the real reason that people having a balanced view of female and male pleasure in bed is so important. Penetration, especially between first-time lovers, is an act of trust; I don't know if there are any reliable statistics on this but I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of young people (both genders) lose their virginity without penetration. It's the chemistry that is the thing. When the chemistry is there, the physical act follows naturally. Many people who would otherwise have sex may be deterred from making a sexual connection with another person altogether out of the fear that penetration is expected and I think that's probably the biggest harm from the juvenile fixation on penetration as the goal of sex, as it were. And note that men can be afraid to penetrate for a variety of reasons. The solution to all of these sexual phobias is to Get Down, Make Love.

Anyway, you 3/4ths of guys out there gotta step up your game in the bedroom, you're making the rest of us look bad.

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Re: Yet another TED talk about sex

Post by Merlin » Tue May 08, 2018 9:58 am

Four minutes? Come on lady, git real.

Let me offer my own back-of-the-envelope breakdown of the disparate rates of orgasm among the sexes:
- 50%, female orgasm is much more labor intensive than male orgasm,
- 10%, quite often the gentlemen has to work for both and understandably work is more vigorously performed if one can taste the befits himself and in real time,
- 10%, there is much wider variation among individual ladies with regards to the techniques required to achieve climax, and switching partners often cuts the learning curve short,
- 10%, women appear to be much more reluctant to ask for the necessary work (maybe a cultural thing, although I suspect its mostly just due to a lower libido),
- The remaining 20% is individual male skill. Of this 20%, I really wouldn’t want to hazard a guess as to how much is innate and how much can be learned.

As to the deeper reasons why all these facts are as they are, its quite clear: female pleasure is indeed far less key in evolutionary terms and, pace the talk, why people are having sex today is completely irrelevant in evolutionary time.

All this being said, there is much value in pushing for more care toward female pleasure, if only the make whatever marginal gains can be made. let's be better than the average.

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Re: Yet another TED talk about sex

Post by Clayton » Wed May 09, 2018 1:03 am

Merlin wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 9:58 am
All this being said, there is much value in pushing for more care toward female pleasure, if only the make whatever marginal gains can be made. let's be better than the average.
I can toast to that.

I view human sexual behavior partly through an evolutionary lens and partly through a spiritual lens. The evolutionary lens answers questions of physical fact, such as why the female population has fewer orgasms than the male population (ceteris paribus, restricting the universe of discourse to heterosexual people, etc. etc.) But it cannot answer larger questions, such as why we experience sexual pleasure itself. We can implement evolutionary algorithms in computers just fine, no need to incentivize the programs with the reward of a pleasant experience. Non-sexually reproducing organisms can reproduce just fine without sex. We are highly motivated to eat by the pleasure of it yet no one (that I've heard of) gets an orgasm from eating. And so on. In my opinion, this larger question touches the disparity between the spiritual and physical basis of sex - why is it that the vast majority of getting off, sexually, is in the mind and heart, and only a fraction of it is in the stimulation of the physical body? This might be less true for young people but as soon as you mature even slightly, the scales tip the other way.

Anyway, we can all agree that we gotta take care of the ladies.

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Re: Yet another TED talk about sex

Post by Physiocrat » Thu May 10, 2018 2:02 pm

Good ploy to get more traffic Clayton. Keep it up. :)
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Re: Yet another TED talk about sex

Post by Clayton » Fri May 11, 2018 5:07 am

Hey, sex sells. I'm not going to apologize for it. :twisted:

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