National Review: loving tribalism and democratization

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National Review: loving tribalism and democratization

Post by William » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:35 pm ... t-all-bad/

If you don’t like how the Kavanaugh process went down, in short, the prescription is obvious: America needs less political journalism, fewer citizen activists, an unelected Senate, ideologically arbitrary political parties, and a more politically oblivious public

That's exactly what I want. Less "everyone is a ideologically driven political philosopher and sectarian" and politics as more , cheerfully corrupt semi gangsters with little ideological bone in their body, no elected senators , less political journalism (do we really need national review), fewer citizens who care about what happens in politics at the global and federal level, and certainly less democracy. Neocons are awful. Right wing Trotskyist.

If the whole Kavanaugh ordeal does inspire a wave of political urgency to oppose the democrats next month (and I kind of hope it does), I would hope it to be a much less democratic and more sober adult and natural reaction going along these lines:

"The left is nuts right now, I'm not giving these children their toys, and I am going to keep them in time out until they settle down a bit. "

That's it. I don't want to be hacked to death in the street with a machete by a hipster fanatic with a fake degree and a set of first world problems because he was zapped with the zeitgeist, granted the world- historical perspective, and "got R̶e̶l̶i̶g̶i̶o̶n̶ democratization".
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Re: National Review: loving tribalism and democratization

Post by Nyarlathotep » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:27 am

At least from my foreigners view, current political trends in the US are quite fatal: On one hand real and imagined white nationalists will get persecuted to the fullest; even movements like the 3%ters and Oathkeepers are now part of a ominous "Neonazi movement".
On the other hand the radical to moderate continuum on the left still operates and violent Antifa openly organises riots and fractures skulls while only recieving slaps on the wrist thanks to sympathetic people inside the justice system.

Large left-wing political violence and terrorism seem to be exceedingly likely in such an enviroment.

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Re: National Review: loving tribalism and democratization

Post by Physiocrat » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:50 pm

That was a pretty interesting take and also an accurate one. It ties into an old thread Neo produced in which he raised the question whether people in non-democratic countries are happier than in democratic ones since they know they can't change the system so work to make the best of their lives in the current arrangement rather than being engaged in ideological political activities which are always depressing when you don't win.

With respect to the US the best solution to the current tribalism is really the abolition of the federal government. Let NY and California fall off the deep end and leave the others states to be a bit more sensible without being indirectly stood on by California and NY. I said best although not that realistic although if Trump wins in 2020 the Left could well move along the secession lines. They won't care that it's always been stopped in the past and had the votes removed from ballots. Now whether the Deep State allow this is another matter - they probably won't. Further given the more violent tendencies amongst the Lefts ground troops a decent dose of political violence could well happen.
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