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Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:24 pm

To avoid spamming the board with threads (that not everybody will be interested in), I'll place Q-related stuff in this thread. Feel free to ignore at your own discretion.

In one of the latest Q drops was this link:

https://twitter.com/realTRUMPERLAND/sta ... 5548347397

Cute little video. There is an evil cabal that rules this world and I am glad that the Q movement is increasing awareness around this concept, although we all probably envision this cabal in different ways (sorry, Hillary is not the Queen of Hell, no matter how badly the Republicans would like you to believe that).

I've been trying to think of a metaphor for the cabal and one came to me -- it is like an S&M club where everybody shares a safe-word and, beyond that, there are "no limits". In the course of time, these delusional people have come to believe their own myths (that they are gods among men). What they do not know is that there is a higher order of things that they have never seen where there are no "safe-words", no betting limits, no loopholes and none of the bullshit that they think counts for law&order. Because of the corruption of their hearts, they will never have the privilege to even see this higher order of things except at the end of a barrel or from the inside of a prison cell.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:49 am



Q has mentioned Mossad (MOS) a few times in his drops. MOS - and, by extension, Israel - is truly the elephant in the room in respect to what is happening in the Q movement. Unfortunately, the State of Israel is surrounded by a thick blanket of highly charged, political polarization. One can argue whether or not this blanket was intentionally created or just happened by accident, but the existence of the blanket itself is undeniable. To mention Israel in any context is to attract zealots from both the furthest left and furthest right of the spectrum.

Over the decades, IDF and MOS have built a well-earned reputation for formidability and Israel's cyberwarfare capabilities are no exception. What I think many people are overlooking -- in the Q movement or anywhere else, for that matter -- is that cyberwarfare is hopelessly entangled into every facet of life. Every datum which touches a computer -- and these days, that's pretty much all data -- is a potential cyber-battlefield. As dramatically illustrated in the opening of the linked video, information or data is not passive even though we typically think of it that way. Almost all information is an input to some other active process. And while the threats to machine processes are important, an overlooked and arguably more dangerous threat is the threat to human processes that consume data. These processes are just as susceptible to cyber-warfare as machines are. Feed subtly wrong data to a team of decision-makers and you can manipulate decision-making in extremely widespread and powerful ways. Nothing is out of reach -- national governments, markets, news, social media, even things like informal social networks and contacts (imagine spoofing text messages between spouses or business partners on the verge of breakup, as just one tiny example).

I haven't posted this video in order to pick on Israel. At this point, there's no use in crying over spilt milk. It can be reasonably argued that Israel is guilty of nothing more than being ahead of the curve in respect to cyber-warfare capabilities. What is clear is that cyber-warfare is here to stay -- it is only going to spread and its implications are going to become more and more profound, especially with the rise of Machine Learning and AI.

Where things go "next level", so to speak, is this crossover between national security capabilities and occult networks like those that Q has suggested have been being tracked and shut down by US military intelligence over the last couple years. The dangers here are difficult to exaggerate. Cyber-warfare changes the game but we intuitively feel that we are at least capable of imagining or "war-gaming" these changes to some extent. But the dangers from what can only be described as spiritual warfare are even greater because we really cannot imagine how the game is going to be changed. We may feel confident that we can imagine it, but baseless confidence in war is just a recipe for strategic disaster.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:17 am

Q confirms extra-terrestrial life.

There you have it, folks. "Consider the vastness of space." Well put.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:22 am



Hate on Q all you want, he called this to a T, going back to earlier this year. Astounding.

Some of the smarter rats saw this coming and got out of the way (e.g. Steele) But I think this is the first time that the hordes of corrupt rats in DC (and all around the world) are getting the gist. As Q keeps saying, "This is not a game." Those working for the dark side have been playing for keeps. When our time comes, so will we. I'll continue to hold my judgment on Q-per-se as we see this unfold but I see these texts being released as the first concrete indication that real change is on the way. I hope that the changes implicit in this first evidence of real change actually materialize into something more lasting and worthwhile than a mere sweep of government seats by the Republican party.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:30 pm

Q never mentions Icke but a lot of the themes of Q's posts and the wider Qanon movement are topics that Icke has been talking about for a long time.



The whole video is good but his wrap-up is particularly good.

The world order that has enslaved humanity actually has no power to do anything to us and it knows this. So, the first and only step to ending the enslavement of humanity is for us to simply withdraw our consent to it. That's what Etienne de la Boetie concluded around 500 years ago in his tract, The Politics of Obedience. It's not even about disobeying or rebelling because an act of disobedience or rebellion implies that there was something there that ought to have been obeyed in the first place.

Rather, resistance to tyranny is about withdrawing consent within our hearts. I do not consent to the plundering of my productive potential to fund the indiscriminate bombing of foreigners (and it is always indiscriminate), even if I am compelled to do so out of necessity. (By the way, that is the cruel dilemma that every slave in history has been forced to choose between -- disobey and deny one's energies to the master, or comply and live to see another day.) I do not consent to the plundering of my productive potential to fund the wrecking of the economy through ruinous public measures (especially central banking), even if I am compelled to do so out of necessity. I do not consent to the plundering of my productive potential to fund abusive policing, nanny-state surveillance, censorship, thought-control and moral legislation, and on and on.

I am not even outraged about it because outrage would imply that the mind of the tyrant is like my own mind. But this is impossible. The tyrant demonstrates through an ocean of evidence that he is a madman, that he lacks any of the defining features of what makes me, and others like me, a human person. I am not outraged when a wild animal attacks another animal. It is in the nature of the beast that it will act like that. Likewise, I am not outraged at the tyrant. I do not even pity him. I do not have any strong feeling towards him whatsoever. I only do not consent to anything he does whether it be up, down, left or right. It is thoroughly wrong, top-to-bottom. The fruit of his works -- that is, the world order in which we live -- is an utter madhouse, a cacophany of futility, a boundless expanse of Mad Hatter absurdity. The certification of his incompetence is in the very withdrawal of consent within my heart. No further proof is needed, no further action is needed except those actions that naturally follow from withdrawing consent to ongoing abuse.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Nyarlathotep » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:34 am

I've seen a few theories about the whole Q thing and several trolls from 4chan have taken credit for starting Q, yet nobody deigns to unmask the people behind it to end "troll/scam/LARP".
My personal take, whatever the veracity of the info presented by Q, is essentially an experiment using the ARG format to spread "conspiratorial" information to demographics not normally exposed to them and possibly use human resources to do OSINT analysis.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:45 am

Nyarlathotep wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:34 am
I've seen a few theories about the whole Q thing and several trolls from 4chan have taken credit for starting Q, yet nobody deigns to unmask the people behind it to end "troll/scam/LARP".
My personal take, whatever the veracity of the info presented by Q, is essentially an experiment using the ARG format to spread "conspiratorial" information to demographics not normally exposed to them and possibly use human resources to do OSINT analysis.
The present world order is in damage-control. I cannot explain how I know this, but I do. The Q-movement is only not part of the present world order insofar as it is looking to God for deliverance. Any concept of a political awakening that is going to bring about real and lasting change is just more of the same. It's just more spin, more damage-control. A political awakening could be one part of God's deliverance, but the awakening itself is just a side-effect, not the cause of change. I'm keeping an eye on the Q movement to see how it all plays out. It's definitely not a LARP but it's probably useful for them to keep the opposition wondering. What I can say for sure is that there is a lot more to what is happening around the Q op than meets the eye.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Merlin » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:43 am

It seems to be for real to me.

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