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Re: Q thread

Post by Jon Irenicus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:25 pm

I'm actually of the view that far from the slippery slope itself being the fallacy, it is the labeling of it as a fallacy which is itself the fallacy. Yes, it can be put to erroneous uses, but more often than not, if you give an inch a mile will be taken, and governments are fond of and notorious for using precedents to try ease a new status quo in and diminish opposition to it. Like slowly boiling a frog.

Good example with the caravan - it's so obviously the result of political chicanery. The same thing occurred with the Kavanaugh hearings, where even questioning the integrity of Ford (who was very obviously lying for political and perhaps financial gain), was re-cast as a form of misogyny.
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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:33 am

Jon Irenicus wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:25 pm
Ford
Dr. Christine "Drop It Like It's Hot" Ford, lol

Since we're on the topic of social-justice issues in general (hard topic to stay away from these days):



Now, I'm not saying this "church" is astro-turf. But if I was going to build an astro-turf "church" -- purpose-built to demonize right-wing gun-owners as a bunch of batshit-crazy psychopaths -- it would probably end up looking a lot like Sanctuary "Church." Austrian economists have warned for a very long time that the ripple-effects of counterfeiting money (central bank money-printing) eventually spread into every part of the culture, that is, the long-run effect of counterfeiting money is that every part of society eventually becomes counterfeit. The reason is simple -- with enough money, you can buy anything and if you have the printing-press, you have unlimited money and the only thing that really matters to you is making sure that nobody can ever take that printing press away from you, even if you have to counterfeit every aspect of society in order to make yourself secure.

The real "Matrix" has nothing to do with computers ... it consists in what you believe to be impossible because it is unthinkable to you.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:05 am

Praying Medic's latest video now hosted on Vimeo: Qanon Nov 13 - Preparing for Future Comms

The video deals with the topic of censorship quite a bit. I recently watched the superb Netflix series Versailles (which is about Louis XIV's Versailles) and I think that Versailles is a great metaphor for what the web has become. It is a monolith masquerading as a richly diverse community. Versailles was really a gilded cage, a sociological weapon for bringing the aristocracy to heel to the will of the French monarch. To the outside observer, it could have appeared to be a simple relocation of the King's court out of Paris. But Versailles was so much more. Like any court, it was filled with whispering spies. But Louis wanted to make the aristocracy obsolete and, to do this, he needed to replace them with dutiful, efficient bureaucrats. Of course, no one of noble birth was going to stand idly by while commoners from the King's bureaus were treading on their turf. But by "inviting" many of the aristocrats to Versailles, Louis was able to keep them busy enough with parties, gossip, sex and food as to be little threat to his ever-expanding bureaucracy outside the walls of Versailles. Once inside the palace, it was difficult for a French aristocrat to leave, except to go to war or if he or she were to win the King's favor and be sent on an errand for the King. So, this palace which gave the appearance of a richly diverse community of nobles was, in fact, a battened-down monolith whose purpose was to hobble the aristocrats that it managed to catch in its jaws. I think it is profitable to view the apparent diversity of thought and opinions on "the World-Wide Web" in a similar light. It is an almost ideal platform for global mass surveillance. And surveillance and censorship are always just two sides of the same coin.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:50 am

Children, the "Deep State" and Q

Topic: Adrenochrome

The urban myth of adrenochrome-harvesting is growing in popularity and it is on the fringes of the Q theory of what motivates the "Deep State". Even though adrenochrome is an urban myth, it is a very instructive urban myth in that it is an accurate metaphor of the true machinery of oppression in this world. Even its status as an urban myth is emblematic. The myth itself is every bit as powerful as what the myth purports to be about, that is, the harvesting of some kind of "super-energetic substance" from the blood of living bodies. To believe in adrenochrome-harvesting is to fall into a trap that is every bit as powerful as the harvesting itself would be, if it existed.

There is a veritable tornado of disinformation surrounding Q and the "Deep State". As Q is fond of saying, you know you're over the target when you start taking flak. The danger of the adrenochrome-harvesting urban myth is that it dramatizes and, thus, fictionalizes the very real abuse of children that occurs in every part of the world. But we can perform mental jujutsu on this fictionalization by using it as a guiding metaphor for thinking about the real effects of the abuse of children.

First, let's start by looking at Nature. The natural world is a great way to level-check any form of societal theory... theories that cannot pass the perpetual-motion machine sniff-test are not worth examining and should be discarded. In the natural world, many animal species tend to be protective of their offspring. In a few species, we see some level of parental training of children by the use of force but it tends to be brief, minimal, usually checked by the intervention of other adults in the species, and no animals besides humans have access to methods of restraint (locking, binding, tying, etc.) So, almost all of the human behaviors surrounding the violent abuse of children, particularly in the home, and particularly those involving restraint, cannot be found in any other animal species. Whenever we find such completely unique behaviors in human beings, that typically means that this behavior is either highly adaptive (gave our ancestors a massive reproductive advantage over other species) or highly non-adaptive (a trait that we inherited from our ancestors and which has become useless or irrelevant to our reproductive survival). It's obvious which category violent child abuse falls into.

But besides its non-adaptiveness, we can perceive a deeper principle at work in violent child abuse. Note that animal species tend to protect their own young, and prey upon the young of other species. How has this been reversed in humans? How is it that we prey upon our own young? I will return to this question after looking into the adrenochrome metaphor some more.

Adrenochrome is really a technologized version of vampirism, eternal youth spells in witchcraft, and so on. In fiction, we often find the logical trade (in terms of the narrative) to be that youth must be sacrificed in order to obtain youth. So, a child must be sacrificed or "put to sleep", etc. in order for the spell or charm or ritual to work. These fictional ideas are all perfect metaphors for the actual machinery of casual violent abuse of children, usually in the home. The social organism benefits from violent child abuse because it regiments the youth and tamps down the destabilizing tendency of youthful energy in society. Rioting crowds are usually made up primarily of young people. We can make many interesting insights into the age demographics of crime, gangs, war, and so on. The youth are a primary culprit of destabilizing behaviors. But children who are regimented in the home with the use of violent abuse[1] at a young age are very unlikely to be involved in destabilizing behaviors. So, we can imagine the social organism as some kind of metaphorical adrenochrome-addict -- it desperately needs children to be abused as much as possible, by as many parents and other authority figures as possible, in order to keep its inter-generational horde of docile-yet-energetic youth marching ahead. In short, violent abuse of children is how the social organism domesticates humanity. Adrenochrome and other fictional metaphors in the vein of child-sacrifice all depict a concentrated version of violent abuse and predation which mimics the much more dispersed and diluted fact of casual, violent abuse of children in the real world.

So, let's return to the question of origins. Whence this alien influence within the human population? How does misanthropy thrive within the human species? How are we kept in this condition of being a self-hating species? How is it that we behave the opposite of virtually every other animal species on this planet, preying upon our own children? And I think this is where we have to look at the "Deep State". I put "Deep State" in scare-quotes because it's an unfortunate label for a very real social structure. I prefer to call them the permanent establishment but they are more commonly referred to as the power elite or the ruling class. It should be uncontroversial in a forum such as this to assert that the State is a parasite upon society. But "the State" is clearly overly-narrow and focuses too much upon the visible, formal power structures in society and overlooks the vastly larger and more important informal, hereditary power-structures which tend to be less visible or even completely anonymous. These people are what I call the permanent establishment. The word "permanent" should be understood to emphasize that they never really go away -- wars, civil wars, elections, revolutions, genocides, etc. do not ever remake the constituency of the permanent establishment, even though they may shake up the seating arrangements a bit. The word "establishment" should be understood to emphasize that they form a human foundation on which the formal edifice of power (the State and its many organs) is built.

I assert that the permanent establishment is, quite literally, a cancer of the human species. They look like human beings, they speak like human beings, they seem in every respect to be ordinary human beings but they cannot be understood to be human in any sense that would evoke our sympathies should they suffer dispossession or death. In short, it would be irrational (in the formal sense) for any ordinary person to "feel bad" when any member of the permanent establishment dies, is imprisoned, has their assets seized or comes to any other bad end. The eradication from our population of each additional member of the permanent establishment is a pro rata increment of freedom, peace and prosperity for the vast majority of humans who are not part of that establishment. The left in the US deployed "The 1%" narrative to domesticate this line of thinking for their own use by whittling down the membership of the permanent establishment to just rich, white, male Republicans. While there are many rich, white, male Republicans in the permanent establishment, they do not comprise the majority of that group since the permanent establishment is truly world-wide. It is present in every country and its ranks are drawn from every profession and every walk of life.

So, here are the adrenochrome drinkers in all their glory. They are boring people. They are small-minded people, narcissists, primarily obsessed with status, fame and money (and that, primarily as a measure of status!) They are those who seek to suck the blood out of our youth in order to keep their dead system alive for just one more generation. This is why they are attracted to defunct theories of economics, such as Keynesianism, which purport to offer mathematical justification for why we need to drain the future for present "growth". Sadly, many of them have been reared under the most violently oppressive conditions and their abuse has infected their minds with alien aims, that is, aims that are alien to the flourishing of human ends (including their own). I pity them for their helplessness but I cannot give up rationality simply because they have been abused. Every single one of them who dies, gets dispossessed, goes to prison or comes to some other bad end is a concrete improvement in the human condition and, thus, of my life.

[1] Note: Regimentation with violent abuse at a young age is not the same as mindless violent abuse. Children who are regimented with violent abuse will either learn to respect authority or to fear it. Either way, the aims of the social organism (specifically, the State) are furthered.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:54 am



Is the needle finally starting to get uncomfortably close to the eyeball?

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sat Dec 08, 2018 6:27 pm

Surprise, surprise, rolling back the gas-tax didn't stop the violent protesters:



It appears to me that we are entering a new phase in the globalist's "plan" to give birth to a global, hegemonic tyranny. From the outside, it looks a lot like what happens to any military's war plans after the first real battle -- they get crumpled up and thrown in the trash because all the prior, pie-in-the-sky planning has been rendered completely irrelevant by the facts on the ground. The New World Order globalists had a certain idea about how this was all supposed to go down. Wam, bam, thank you ma'am for our shiny, new world government. The first signs of serious resistance, I think, go back to the public snap-back in the wake of the 2008 banking collapse. At that time, the NWO "elites" went into spin-mode, telling themselves (and us, through their media mouthpieces) how the plan is still on track and everything is right on schedule. However, ten years down the road, we continue to sink deeper into global economic stagnation. At every point around the world where running violence has flared up (e.g. the Kiev riots), the "elites" have stamped it out with targeted application of brute force. Of course, those same tactics were deployed in Paris. But it isn't working the way it's supposed to. Something's deeply wrong with the plan and it's starting to become obvious, both to those who oppose it, and those who are on the inside or who have been "captured" by it (the foot-soldiers). Thus begins the next act: I call it complexification.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:06 pm

Don't run with scissors!

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Post by Clayton » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:22 am

Not a fan of the EU or the globalist agenda, but it is obviously wrong for the protesters to throw rocks, destroy property, etc. The following clip captures something about protesters that really puzzles me and I thought I'd share it:

https://youtu.be/sZ5WODF9utg?t=110

How bored do you have to be with your life to think that it's a good idea to approach a line of people armed with cans of bear mace and who are all probably having a pretty shitty day?? What other outcome could you expect than to get hit with mace and end up having to rinse your eyes out for the next four hours?? I don't get it. But the fact remains that there are many such people and there are just as many willing to don a uniform and douse them in the face with a can of mace. I guess they're made for each other.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:09 am

Another one of "those" YouTube recommendations:


I didn't get into this business by being an airhead or a screwball. My attitude was always: if it's real it can take the pressure. You know? You don't have to pussy-foot around the real thing. If they're telling you, you know, "Oh, you must lower your voice and avert your gaze", then you're probably in the presence of crap. Because the real thing, is real. It doesn't demand that you adjust your opinion to suit it. It's real. That means it is preeminent, that means it sets the agenda. I studied yoga, I wandered around in the East, I was fast-shuffled by beady-eyed little men in dotis, I know the whole spiritual supermarket and rigamarole, and I find nothing there to interest me on the level of, you know, five grams of psilocybin mushrooms in silent darkness. I mean that's where the pedal meets the metal, that's where the rubber meets the road. The inspiration for me to get up and talk to an audience like this simply comes from the fact that I cannot believe that this could be kept under wraps the way it has. I mean, I kidded with you earlier that they would make sex illegal, if they could. Well they can't, so it isn't. But the psychedelic experience is as central to understanding your humanness as having sex, or having a child, or having responsibilities, or having hopes and dreams. And yet it is illegal. We are somehow told -- we are infantilized -- we are told, "You can wander around within the sanctioned playpen of ordinary consciousness and we have some intoxicants over here, if you want to mess yourself up, we've got some scotch, here, and some tobacco, and red meat and some sugar, and a little TV and so forth, and so on. But these boundary-dissolving hallucinogens that give you a sense of unity with your fellow man and Nature are somehow forbidden. This is an outrage. It's a sign of cultural immaturity and the fact that we tolerate it is a sign that we are living in a society as oppressed as any society in the past.

My thing is not about my opinion or what I saw in Africa or anything like that. This is -- get it straight -- this is about an experience. Not my experience, your experience, it's about an experience which you have. Like getting laid or going to Africa, you must do the experience. Otherwise it's just whistling past the graveyard. And we're not talking about something like being born again or meeting the flying saucers or something like that, where good works and prayer are the method. No, if you take a sufficient dose of an active compound it will deliver itself to you, on the money. If it doesn't work, take more! Nobody is in a position to dismiss this just because it didn't work for them on one or two tries. This is an art. It's an art. It's something you coax into existence. I mean, you have to learn to make love, you have to learn to speak English, anything worth doing is an art that is acquired. This is part of our birthright, perhaps the most important part of our birthright. These substances will deliver. It is the confoundment of psychology and science generally. And that's why it's so touchy for cultural institutions. But you are not a cultural institution, you're a free and independent human being, and these things have your name written on them in big, gold letters.

The way I think of these psychedelics, or a different way, is that they're catalysts for the imagination, catalysts to say what has never been said, to see what has never been seen. To draw, paint, sing, sculpt, dance and act what has never before been done. To push the envelope of creativity in language, and what's really important is, I call it, the felt presence of direct experience, which is a fancy term which just simply means, we have to stop consuming our culture. We have to create culture. Don't watch TV. Don't read magazines. Don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time where you are, now, is the most immediate sector of your universe. And if you're worrying about Micheal Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, then you are dis-empowered. You're giving it all away to icons, icons which are maintained by an electronic media, so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y, or something. This is shit-brained, this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion and what is real is you, and your friends, and your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, your fears. And we are told: "No, we're unimportant, we're peripheral, get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that, and then you're a player." You don't even want to play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers that want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world. Where is that at?
Unfortunately, McKenna's cure (psychedelics) is no better than the disease he is fighting. But the essence of what he's saying is very important. The overriding goal and purpose of everything outside of you is to dis-empower you, to get you to sit on the sidelines and watch. Don't play the game, watch the game. Don't go to war with your enemies, watch as the real men fight on the field of battle. TV is the ultimate picture of what death really is... a perpetual, zombie-like state of inert receptivity. To live is to act. To not act is what death is. Do not misunderstand -- I am not saying that inaction leads to death, I am saying that inaction is what death really is. Death is not permanent annihilation. The immortal soul cannot be annihilated. That's what McKenna discovered by taking psychedelics, although he typically explains it in a very roundabout way. But the soul can be destroyed by being immersed into a state of permanent, conditioned passivity. And that's precisely what the cultural engineers have done -- they have built an entire world -- nay, an entire Universe -- whose mechanism performs one and only one overriding task: whipping the human soul into a state of permanent passivity arising from nothing more than the unavoidable urge to escape pain and suffering. In a single sentence, that's the entire explanation for why there are all these evils in the world -- death, aging, disease, destitution, war, bigotry, hatred, and so on. These conditions exist within the world because, without them, it would not be possible to keep the human spirit enslaved and ignorant of its true ontology. It starts from the earliest age when we are indoctrinated with the myth of permanent annihilation. Believing this myth necessarily raises the time-preference of everyone who believes it. In fact, it infinitely amplifies time-preference since if we understood our true ontology (that we are immortal), we would all necessarily act with effectively zero time-preference (long-run benefits are always worthwhile vis-a-vis smaller short-term costs). Whether or not psychedelics are the path to understanding this, the fact is that it is the case. Humanity's situation is drastically worse than mere extinction risks like a comet strike, a super-volcano or climate change. We are trapped in a matrix whose dimensions can only be captured in words by the transcendent language of apocalyptic Scripture. The enemy has deceived you on a scale that you cannot even begin to imagine. The path out of this trap does not lie through the wimpering timidity of traditional religions. No, the path out of this trap lies through war, through bathing in the blood of all enemies forever, grinding to powder everything that stands against the human spirit, trapping it in an eternal, utterly inescapable prison. The world around you, right down to its elements, is and always was an act of war directed at the very core of your being.

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Re: Q thread

Post by Clayton » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:32 am



On first brush, these ANTIFA/ProudBoys confrontations seem pretty random. But on closer inspection, you will find that there are certain themes that keep popping up. In some ways, I would compare it to a schoolyard confrontation where the groups fighting have to keep things from getting too far out of hand or the staff will get involved and they'll end up with suspension or expulsion (get arrested, go to jail, do time).

The body blocking technique comes up frequently. The idea is that standing in someone's path is not illegal, but it effectively prevents them from going about whatever they were attempting to do without engaging in some kind of escalation. The point is to bait the escalation... it actually has nothing to do with where they want this person to walk or not walk. That is, that part of the confrontation is just a ruse in order to place a thin veil over what is actually happening.

I know a lot of people that have sympathy for one or the other side of this ongoing confrontation, usually falling along party lines. Personally, I think it's all repulsive, juvenile behavior with costly, dangerous and sometimes fatal consequences. As far as I can tell, both sides are really playing the same game... it's like Coke versus Pepsi, street-brawl-style.

A lot of the tactics being deployed by these street-protester groups were invented by Otpor!, disseminated in the color revolutions and perfected in the Maidan riots in Kiev. These are tactics that play right at the edge of violence, and right at the edge of law & order. The riot police are usually in a position where they can't suppress the entire riot (without resorting to martial law, which the political power is usually reluctant to do), but they can nab really bad actors out of a crowd. So, you will see these massive street riots with protesters screaming, yelling, maybe even punching or hitting each other with bats and so on, then you will see the riot police come in a single-file from somewhere out-of-frame, nab somebody who looks to be pulling some kind of concealed weapon out from a trenchcoat, then single-file back out of the mob to a nearby paddy-wagon. So, it's not complete anarchy, but the police are not able to assert complete control, either, so it's basically a form of controlled chaos. The tactics being deployed by these left- and right- extremist groups are ideal for operating effectively in these sorts of controlled-chaos situations. They are copied from the tactics deployed in the previous conflicts I mentioned.

To be completely clear, what I am asserting is that even though these street-brawls appear to be the stuff of juvenile minds -- and they are that -- this is not merely about juvenile-minded meat-heads having a fist-fight. Rather, these street confrontations should be understood in their wider context, which is a struggle between two or more unseen factions, each vying to seize the pinnacle of power in a planned world-government. Everybody believes in a world government... run by themselves. Everybody believes in a Roman empire... where they are Caesar. But the problem that all sides have to cope with is the problem of legitimacy... seeming to be the moral authority, the "grownup in the room". So, it's very important to appear measured and not to lash out with martial law tactics. The success of the nationalists (whose tactics-book somehow ended up in the hands of the "anti"-nationalist ANTIFA) at the Maidan riots was founded on this concept of appearing to be the weak side being brutalized by the riot police. No doubt, the Ukraine government was and is brutal, as eastern governments generally tend to be. But that's not the real issue, the real issue is that the Maidan rioters were able to leverage this into a massive political upset by a clever combination of street-tactics (baiting heavy-handed response from the riot squads) and propaganda (publishing videos to YouTube and other social media in near-real-time).

When you assemble a large enough body of people and when there is a sufficient amount of real-time social media feedback in terms of the "play by play" events on the ground (the Paris yellow-vest riots are the latest example of this phenomenon), you have a situation where the side with all the guns and tanks may actually be the losing side, precisely because they are unable to "fire at will" (which would obviously disperse any crowd), while they are the numerical minority and their violence must, therefore, be scaled in proportion. In other words, for a hundred men to hold off a crowd of ten-thousand, those hundred men must be willing to apply massive violence against the press in order to motivate the rioters at the front of the crowd to turn back and press against the crowd. So you see the riot police deploy battle formations, tear-gas, water-cannons, night-sticks, flash-bangs, rubber bullets and dozens of other violent, "less-lethal" tactics against the crowds. The police must somehow avoid appearing to be the bad guys (the propaganda dimension), while simultaneously deploying enough violent force to repel the crowd, or even disperse it.

We are starting to see the first flickers of cross-border protests and this is where things may start to get very interesting, indeed. One way or the other, France can suppress French riots. Belgium can suppress Belgian riots. And so on. But cross-border actions have the potential to create unexpected international dynamics. It is crucial to remember that every national government has secret police and intelligence agencies whose job is to detect foreign agents and foreign intelligence activities within their borders. Running violence in the streets opens the door to many opportunities for aggressive, covert actions that would not be possible without the distraction of street riots. In fact, fomenting riots and other forms of social unrest is a favorite tactic of intelligence agencies because these kinds of movements act as a natural "force multiplier." But the Internet, social media, mass surveillance, and so on, are new ingredients in the social landscape that are going to have unpredictable effects. Governments have long experience in handling all forms of social unrest but never in the presence of such lightning-fast communication systems and with such broad dissemination of video feeds and other mechanisms that allow any member of the public to produce play-by-play documentation of what is happening on the ground.

Make sure your seats are in the upright and locked position, this take-off may be a bit harder than expected...

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