Libertarian-Nationalist Policy Aims. What Are They?

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Libertarian-Nationalist Policy Aims. What Are They?

Post by Tom Rogers » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:24 am

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Post by Merlin » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:27 am

What, nothing on the nuclear capability?

I may thus add, the retention of a strategic second-strike capability in the form of 3-4 SSBN submarines.
The re-activisation of air-launched tactical nuclear weapons, of which 50-100 to be stationed in air bases on British soil. You need the small ones so that the world really believes you when you say you are willing to use the big ones. You also need them stationed where the enemy would have to nuke civilians to get them.

Also, a delicate topic but an important one nevertheless: nothing regarding population control? I sometimes get the feeling that north-western Europeans forget how many necks they had to break for a millennium to get the high-performing population they have now. This advantage can be lost again, and it wouldn’t take a millennium either. So, any measure to control the growth of the lower classes?

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Post by Physiocrat » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:24 pm

I'm with most of the list there. The abolition of monetary policy and a non-interventionist foreign policy are a must. It is also an area we could get support from the left.

With respect to immigration I would adopt a Hoppean invite system coupled with an assisted return programme for anyone who immigrated post-WW1 or for someone who is clearly not of English descent. The foreign aid budget could finance a generous programme.

I know Merlin likes nukes but I just don't see the point. If you want a targeted weapon you may as well us conventional missiles which are significantly cheaper. Proper massive nukes make sense if you want to obliterate a large area but one it would be immoral and would lay waste to that area for a significant time period before it could be usefully cultivated.
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Post by Jon Irenicus » Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:14 pm

The whole thing makes sense. Although I've moved towards a more tolerant view of minarchism over the years, which may be why.

Regarding breeding habits, I would say for as long as the welfare state exists, it would make sense to make receipt of welfare for certain individuals, where they are chronic dependents, conditional on voluntarily undergoing sterilisation.
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Post by Merlin » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:16 am

Tom Rogers wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:06 pm
Agreed, however in my view minimising the state would have this effect without the need for formal eugenics.
Alas, I fear that is not the case.

The lower classes just seem to have as many children as they can without giving much thought to the process at all. Under a prosperous minarchist society, the lower classes would have ample opportunities to make some dough with odd jobs, so the problem of adverse breeding habits wouldn’t go away on its own.

On the plus side, dealing with the immigration problem would probably buy four or five generations of time before the growth on the internal issue becomes noticeable in most western societies, so maybe this issue can be deferred into the future, after the most emergent problems are taken care of.

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Post by Physiocrat » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:04 am

Merlin wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:16 am
Alas, I fear that is not the case.

The lower classes just seem to have as many children as they can without giving much thought to the process at all. Under a prosperous minarchist society, the lower classes would have ample opportunities to make some dough with odd jobs, so the problem of adverse breeding habits wouldn’t go away on its own.

On the plus side, dealing with the immigration problem would probably buy four or five generations of time before the growth on the internal issue becomes noticeable in most western societies, so maybe this issue can be deferred into the future, after the most emergent problems are taken care of.
I think the low birth rates of the highly intelligent is more of a problem. These have been down since the late 19th century and feminism has significantly reduced it. Just focusing on the lower classes will still see a decline of average IQ. Also without a welfare state the poor still could have quite a few children but they are likely to be ones with lowish IQ but social personality traits. The problem with the welfare state is that it subsidises the low IQ people with anti-social personality traits as well as encouraging divorce. Low IQ is still an issue but with the latter two disappearing it would be less of a problem.
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